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Miles Away. by hw-campbell-jnr Miles Away. by hw-campbell-jnr
Another AmCap up in here for sizing issues.

AN: TW: Triggering.
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Did Steve know about the Holocaust when he was fighting in WWII? I mean, had they discovered the camps yet? Because, if not, and he didn't find out about a genocide of 12 million people (12, not 6; 6 were Jews, the other 6 were everyone else the Nazis didn't like) till 60-something years later, WHAT would his reaction be to that??
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No, I don't think he did - as I read anyway, American soldiers (and the American army) largely didn't. Many of them would have understood that the climate was bad for Jewish people (and others), simply because so many émigrés had arrived in places like the 'States and the UK, and some of them would have understood how institutionalized that racism was because of having to interact with German officials, but I think the extent of it, the systemic execution, is new to him. I think one of the majorly horrible things (and creepy things in the sense of having it creep up on you like an aggressive slime) about reading about WWII for Steve would be finding out things that he didn't know but in hindsight is vaguely able to infer from what he already knew. It might even be part of what's tripping him out here. And he's been thinking a lot about oppressive governments lately. Part of me imagines he wigs out here because he's started to predict what will be in the story, but at the same time, that's not the only thing.

Then there's the fact that in MCU most of his fighting was focused on Red Skull and Hydra, who were obviously very villainous, but also were factioned off from the Nazis - maybe Steve would even feel some feelings about having concentrated his energies there with so much other evil?
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LeahSharon Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, the feels again. And Maus! Also, I have to tell you that I liked the last one. My father has very negative memories about the food in the army, except for bagels. He had never had a bagel until he joined the army.

And now I'm off topic. Laterz!
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Sorry that made zero sense. I was trying to talk about that ~ not comforting/only comforting thing ever ~ especial because discipline thing that the army can have sometimes. Anyway...
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LeahSharon Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, my dad didn't have the same relationship with the army as Steve did, that's for sure. For him it was a career choice.
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Oh dear! I've just reviewed this exchange and my comments are super, super awkward. I think I know what happened: posting these overtly emotional strips does sometimes make me more anxious than usual, partly because they feel so personal and self-disclosure-y, and partly because of the politics of talking about this kind of stuff in a public space, and especially one like tumblr, which is historically volatile on the matter. Anyway, having posted and feeling anxious, I enlisted the help of a good friend to distract me, and many happy red wines later, I returned home to read comments. I can see, above, that I've done a little of the wild and free association of the inebriated, for which I apologize.

At any rate, now I'd really like to say a sincere and sober thank you for your comments, and for taking the time to make them. And, that I'm sincerely glad that these strips have felt relateable. That's all! Best. <3
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LeahSharon Mar 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's fine. It did seem a little scattered but I just figured you didn't say everything you wanted to say in one post and so replied again. Anyway, you're welcome and I hope you don't feel as anxious with future posts.
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Quite a lot of the people I've met from the army feel that way about it. Like your dad, I mean, rather than Steve. I can imagine there's a lot of diversity in feeling, but I think it's pretty common to see it as a career choice - and it's only just occurred to me how unbelievably irritating Steve might have been to some of his comrades in that regard!
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I can't tell if giving people feels is good or bad. But you can be off topic any time you like in this DA arena. I think the whole point of doing an art is to have a conversation (like, hopefully you've done an art thing in a way that makes someone else want to talk too, as you've talked yourself by doing an art thing) so whatever you feel motivated to say is on topic. Just fo' reals and fo' eva, so never worry about that.

Also, this is super interesting, about the bagel. I really love the movie The Young Lions where one of the storylines (among others) is about a young Jewish (American) soldier signing up to fight Nazis, but the American army is also totes anti-semitic. That was a long time ago, but from my own friends in the army I get the sense that from food to personal politics, it's a very mixed bag.
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LeahSharon Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No, no, these are good feels. We're feeling sympathy and/or empathy for Steve, which is what you want as a writer/artist right? There are bad feels but you put a trigger warning so hopefully everyone will realize if this can trigger them and avoid it if that's the case.
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